tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post4045468395580360290..comments2024-03-19T04:58:28.337-07:00Comments on BIG OLD HOUSES: Tioronda, Beacon, NYJohn Foremanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05062464473900774511noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-7721762073122887202021-06-29T04:35:37.878-07:002021-06-29T04:35:37.878-07:00Nope
Nope<br />Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03827144725209045975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-2526115066794712992020-08-30T20:04:31.145-07:002020-08-30T20:04:31.145-07:00Several years have passed and I am still trying to...Several years have passed and I am still trying to locate my son's Craig House records. I can now be reached at jrwagnerlaw@gmail.com. <br />John Wagner Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01571651460809428581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-81103302278106144252020-03-19T07:54:41.094-07:002020-03-19T07:54:41.094-07:00Linda, would you e willing to contact me privately...Linda, would you e willing to contact me privately? My name is Janet and I am seeking information for my friend who was a patient there from approx. 1978-1980 as an adolescent. I would be very grateful. Thank you Janet Ga<br />garlick trueleo@netscape.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-19754292264305826242020-03-19T07:37:20.477-07:002020-03-19T07:37:20.477-07:00My friend was also a patient from 1978-1980 and he...My friend was also a patient from 1978-1980 and her father worked for IBM, She is also seeking medical records, and claims she was told she did not need to e there- a very similar tale. Please email me if you are willing to share information. Trueleo@netscape.com. My name is Janet. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-42786157827989321162019-09-10T10:07:09.075-07:002019-09-10T10:07:09.075-07:00A big thank you to all the folks who contributed t...A big thank you to all the folks who contributed to this thread, which I just found. My grandfather founded Craig House about 1915, and my father owned the hospital until he sold it to staff psychiatrist Dr. Constantine Vardopoulos in the 1990s. The comments flowing through this thread bring back many, many memories, from Hugh Murray, the farmer who managed the horses and the farmland to the interesting, often brilliant patients being treated there and the skilled, caring staff that made the hospital hum along successfully until it was overtaken by insurance protocols and unsustainable economics. I, too, cringe at my father's decision to hire a Connecticut architect whom he knew in college to design the hideous wing and hitch a swimming pool to the rear of Tioranda. Hideous, indeed. As a kid I learned to ski jump from a makeshift mound built by a Norwegian patient of my father. I worked one summer on a grounds crew run by Bull Marcantonio, a mountain of a man with a heart of gold. During another summer, I life-guarded at the pool near the pond, the Hydro, the tennis court and baseball diamond. Nice work for a kid. I remember Jane and the late Peter Fonda visiting Craig House to see their mother, a patient (She committed suicide at the hospital.). As a college student I would "sample" gallon jugs of red wine made with grapes from the hospital vineyard. I would love to hear more from former employees and patients. My father kept my sister and brother insulated from business and medical areas, so I know precious little about the operation of the place. But I have fond memories of patient aide Stanley Rohrbach, who drove his client to Army football games, golf outings, dinner at Gus' Tavern in Cold Spring, and Mets baseball games in his blue Willy's Jeepster. If anyone would like to contact me directly, my email is helmingur@yahoo.com. Jim Slocumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-62697235310266665962018-12-30T15:14:10.109-08:002018-12-30T15:14:10.109-08:00To the anonymous posters: What kind of informatio...To the anonymous posters: What kind of information were you looking for about Gary? I'm 99% sure I can help. ~LN Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-202290312174182762018-03-01T08:20:33.313-08:002018-03-01T08:20:33.313-08:00I worked at the craig house from the mid 80's ...I worked at the craig house from the mid 80's until it's closing. during that time it changed hands several times. I only worked the night shift so I didn't get a full flavor of how the place ran during the day. It truly was a neat place aside from that ugly wing that was added on. I can say that the staff I worked with were all caring and there and they always treated the patients with dignity. I have fond memories of the place and enjoyed working there. Toward the end it seemed that Putnam just couldn't fill the beds. They tried all sorts of things including a geriatric unit. Very sad for the beautiful place to end up falling down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-44650600004262350252018-02-10T11:42:02.992-08:002018-02-10T11:42:02.992-08:00All these comments about how wonderful this place ...All these comments about how wonderful this place was.....<br /><br />I was a patient when I was a teenager in the mid 90's and this was one of the WORST and HORRIFIC places I've ever been too. The staff treated the children horribly (physical and verbal abuse) and I remember seeing the adult patients when I was first admitted (they brought me into that scary library) and ALL of the adults were out of it, drooling, mumbling incoherently to themselves and could hardly keep their heads up. This place is SCARY and seeing all the catatonic adult patients was even scarier. Nobody was allowed outside. The kids were locked behind 2 or 3 pairs of magnetically locked doors on the second floor. I did not see sunlight for the entire 10 days I was there. We had incredibly darkened windows that we were not allowed to open the shades to or look out, but we always sneaked and peeked out the window because we were desperate for the real world. The windows were caged from the outside with big metal bars on the inside. I never saw any adults outside at all, let alone golfing or painting or sunbathing, LOL! It's so hard for me to imagine this place as being some sort of high class resort style hospital. I would love to talk to someone who was actually a patient there while it was such a nice place to be, because everyone else's opinions come from knowing someone who was there or worked there and seemingly a very, very long time ago. Was anyone around this place in the 90's right before it closed? Let's talk about how this place was right before it shut it's doors. It was nothing to brag about.<br /><br />I would also love to know where I can find my records. All records of Craig House's patients seem to have vanished.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-87829099264504733662017-10-31T08:38:08.539-07:002017-10-31T08:38:08.539-07:00The word at the time was that Dr Vardopolous bough...The word at the time was that Dr Vardopolous bought the hospital, milked it, then made a fortune selling it just before the insurance companies stopped paying for extended mental health in-patient "care."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-44862645386578774702017-07-31T20:26:40.499-07:002017-07-31T20:26:40.499-07:00I truly hope this exciting 19th century treasure g...I truly hope this exciting 19th century treasure gets the same rebound and respect Boscobel, Van Wyck, Morse and Verplanck houses received, surely investors plan to revive this Hudson River valley gemstoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-73605359010636492792017-07-23T22:06:35.679-07:002017-07-23T22:06:35.679-07:00If nothing else, they should have a guided tour th...If nothing else, they should have a guided tour through the buildings and all through the properties. The money collected could be put into the grounds and buildings for upkeep. I use to live near the Craig House Gym, tennis courts, & pond. There was a driver who would bring the patients down at a certain time in the afternoon. There were two workers at the gym. One man was George and the other was Paul. I have been in the main building and the gym and it absolutely hurts to think the buildings and the property will remain vacant and deteriorate. At least let the history of the place live on. It is fascinating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-52094351721545207582017-03-12T21:15:10.339-07:002017-03-12T21:15:10.339-07:00Hi Sharon Hunt~
Not sure if you will receive this ...Hi Sharon Hunt~<br />Not sure if you will receive this message? However, if you do, I just found this thread while I was researching my Great Uncle Grover "Prof" Emory and his ties to the Craig House in Beacon, NY. In hopes of you reading this, my Great Grandfather is Clifford Emory who was Grover's Brother. My email address is bruxena@yahoo.com~I would love to hear from you and to be in touch! Thanks!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-6049936670870323362016-12-25T07:10:38.952-08:002016-12-25T07:10:38.952-08:00OMG this should be restored to its original grande...OMG this should be restored to its original grandeur,especially the Tavern on the Green builder's magic has embraced Central Park this property and structure would make a huge compliment to New Yorkers and New York State legacy.I personally would love to gather funds and support to revive this Hudson River valley gemstone to it's original glory,I see potential equally to Biltmore Mansion in North Carolina,Grants farm in Saint Louis,MO Zeinopole,PA mansions,ideal for marriages,corporate parties or music minded people with hotel and complete facilities for horseback,bus tours of the grand venues from Beacon to Hyde ParkSpeedohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16605512799131143692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-53446566504322872942016-12-25T06:58:45.977-08:002016-12-25T06:58:45.977-08:00I was equally stopped in my travels by this stunni...I was equally stopped in my travels by this stunning and abandoned gemstone of American history.I too took pictures and enjoyed the ancient landscapes and plants that are easily over a century old such a a juniper that spread out twenty feet with stalks foot across.the music room has vexing stained glass windows and every detail was constructed to last an millennium and moreSpeedohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16605512799131143692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-76651351457697300992016-03-31T12:38:03.813-07:002016-03-31T12:38:03.813-07:00Regarding Constance Whitney Warren medical records...Regarding Constance Whitney Warren medical records. Perhaps this person could help<br />https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1982&dat=19891222&id=3YlGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=bDMNAAAAIBAJ&pg=4365,2195999&hl=en<br /><br />She's listed on whitepages.com as still in Cornwall-on-Hudson. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-17411575015526156692016-03-26T08:54:06.729-07:002016-03-26T08:54:06.729-07:00I worked as an aide here while going to nursing sc...I worked as an aide here while going to nursing school from 1979-1980. It was where I actually saw an ECT (electroshock therapy) treatment given. "Meadows" was the name of the building where everything was locked. Mrs. Cushman was a long-term patient there. Admitted there while a teenager, she was in her 70's at the time. Her nickname was "Toadie" and she used to yell down the stairs all the time, requesting her Tylenol. Kate Melville was committed to Meadows by her Millbrook family. She called me by her granddaughter's name, Leith, which I would later find out gave her great comfort. Mr. Pratt was in another cottage, and he was the oldest person with Huntington's Disease in the country at the time. "Lady Mumford", Miss Butler and Mrs. Mary Butler lived in Tioronda. They were also, admitted at very young ages, and were in their late 70's/early 80's at the time. Mr. Land was in the cottage closest to the administrative building. My goodness, I haven't thought about these people in so long. Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01600306647945607334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-80170120350624085882016-01-31T13:44:36.051-08:002016-01-31T13:44:36.051-08:00I believe my mother worked here in the mid 50'...I believe my mother worked here in the mid 50's. Shirley Wallace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-56851570695044070372016-01-11T09:44:20.513-08:002016-01-11T09:44:20.513-08:00Can anyone tell me when the golf course at Craig H...Can anyone tell me when the golf course at Craig House opened and/or when it closed? Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-78059234705485805212016-01-10T08:21:33.295-08:002016-01-10T08:21:33.295-08:00Re: Constance Whitney Warren research. Have you di...Re: Constance Whitney Warren research. Have you discovered a correlation between her giving up her successful career as a sculptress to marry--and later divorce--a Frenchman and her later, prolonged mental illness? mls_friends@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-79498345896511930342015-10-17T19:59:03.808-07:002015-10-17T19:59:03.808-07:00what year where you there? I was there early 90s. ...what year where you there? I was there early 90s. Also upstairs gorgeous was like a resort. I didnt want to go home. Was a sense of pieceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-20506432663975297322015-10-03T20:45:58.109-07:002015-10-03T20:45:58.109-07:00I worked there in 89 after I graduated from Vassar...I worked there in 89 after I graduated from Vassar. Worked there for a year or two. <br /><br />At that time the long modern wing held the locked adolescent ward (my unit) and the locked adult ward. We did a lot of good work there, but I wasn't fond of the money oriented aspect of the business. Stanjamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105437496974070337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-68745117069096742182015-10-03T20:45:51.606-07:002015-10-03T20:45:51.606-07:00I worked there in 89 after I graduated from Vassar...I worked there in 89 after I graduated from Vassar. Worked there for a year or two. <br /><br />At that time the long modern wing held the locked adolescent ward (my unit) and the locked adult ward. We did a lot of good work there, but I wasn't fond of the money oriented aspect of the business. Stanjamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00105437496974070337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-22329971649149249972015-08-10T14:03:26.923-07:002015-08-10T14:03:26.923-07:00My son was a patient at Craig House in the late 19...My son was a patient at Craig House in the late 1990s. I am trying to locate his medical records for submission to Social Security and I have not had much success thus far. If anyone knows whether these records still exist and, if they do, where and how I can obtain copies of my son's records, I'd be very grateful. I can be reached at wagvola@aol.com.<br />Thank you.<br />John WagnerJohn Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12906684534771979538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-16751593680168059072015-07-27T15:08:55.904-07:002015-07-27T15:08:55.904-07:00Two more Sargent's weeping hemlock are at Vass...Two more Sargent's weeping hemlock are at Vassar College in Poughkeepsie and on the property west of the Henrik Kipp homestead in Fishkill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170852285107502075.post-39595845003761992992015-07-10T05:40:39.442-07:002015-07-10T05:40:39.442-07:00Regarding Tioronda, Beacon, N.Y.
I recently fo...Regarding Tioronda, Beacon, N.Y.<br /><br /> I recently found your blog page while researching the life and work of my grand aunt, Elizabeth Lawn. She was born in Yorkshire, England; graduated as a registered nurse and immigrated to the United States in 1927 to work at Craig House Sanatorium. My Mother inherited some of my grand aunt's personal possessions which included a glowing reference from Dr. Slocum and a number of printed photographs of the grounds and interiors. My Grand Aunt left in 1935 and returned to England for a short while to nurse illness in her family. Later that year she returned to the U.S. where she died in 1978.<br />Mr N Bailey. England U.K Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com